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August 31 TOTALS FROM THE COUNTING HOUSE Thanks as always for Seacoast Rambles, ("Dynamite in the Rock Pasture"), the best read of the Sunday morning papers, and some of the best writing on the Seacoast, anywhere, anytime. We have five issues of the New Hampshire Gazette reverently stored and catalogued in our collection at the Counting House Museum. No idea how they came to South Berwick, but I never lose the awe of beholding a newspaper that old. I never really knew anything about the New Hampshire Gazette. Our earliest copy is a single sheet of an issue in 1766, which I now learn from your article was only ten years into the life of the paper (kind of like an issue from this week of USA Today?). The page measures only 9.5" x 14.3," but the rag paper quality was so good in those days that is has held up better than some from two centuries later. And sure enough, there are Daniel Fowle and Robert Fowle named as its "printers." (No mention of Primus.) Nothing too inflammatory in the1766 issue, but there is an interesting notice of a lecture series to be held in Portsmouth on "a courfe of experiments in that Inftructive and Entertaining Branch of natural philosopy called Elictricity." Clearly the paper was way out in front even then. Our other copies are from 1783, with news of terms of a peace treaty between England and France; 1805, on arson suspected in Portsmouth, news from the Caribbean and Congress, and a "lost and found" item, a Piscataqua gundalow found adrift (spelled "gondola" and of interest to us because our museum has the Seacoast's most complete collection of gundalow models); 1815, with sailing notices from the Port of Portsmouth; and 1838, national and political news featuring Indian affairs, Martin Van Buren, and Daniel Webster.
We also have a great number of issues from the 1830s of a paper called the New Hampshire Patriot and State Gazette, published in Concord by a Cyrus Barton. Wonder if that was part of the original Gazette's"Continuing" evolution that metamorphosized into the Portsmouth Herald. I don't know why it is that seeing the flesh and fiber of an old newspaper gives a feeling of proximity to an era that no modern history book can give. I hope someone is stockpiling Steve Fowle's editions on CD ROM for future generations to sense the real fumes and flavors of Portsmouth in the 1990s! August 29 THE WORLDS' LONGEST BOOK TITLE? Samuel Penhallow wrote a history and is frequently quoted in Emma Coleman's New England Captives Carried to Canada. Do you know the name of the book Penhallow wrote that Coleman quotes so often? Pat ebook@tiac.net EDITOR'S REPLY: Yes. We found the book, published in 1859 sitting right on the shelf of the Portsmouth Library. Hang onto your bermudas, 'cause here comes the whole title: The History of the Wars of New-England with the Eastern Indians, or a Narrative of Their Continued Perfidy and Cruelty, From the 10th of August, 1703, To the Peace renewed 13th of July, 1713, And from the 25th of July, 1722, To their Submission 15th December, 1725, Which was ratified August 5th, 1726m -- By Samuel Penhallow, Esqr.. We won't comment on the horrible implications of the title, but you can read the 1713 treaty on our site at: http://www.seacoastnh.com/history/colonial/treaty.html August 28 ODIORNE ON-LINE I am enjoying the site, but I originally came here to find info on the Odiorne family. I am a direct descendant of Nathaniel Odiorne, and can't find him mentioned by name, or any information on the family [Deliverance Odiorne]. I would like to know where to go in New Hampshire to find out more. Terry terjanw@aol.com EDITOR'S REPLY: Using our homepage Search Engine we found about 20 Odiorne references, but little on the family. We have a great old article in our files on the take-over of the family farm by eminent domain that appeared 20 years ago in the defunct NH Times. You should check with the Seacoast Science Center which occupies the site now, with the State of NH which runs the park there, with the NH Historical Society, Portsmouth Library, Rye Historical Society, Rye Library and Portsmouth Athenaeum. There is a ton of material to be had in those archives. Charles Brewster's comments are clickable below: http://www.seacoastnh.com/brewster/85.html August 27 NOT A LONE "RANGER"? I am researching boats named "Ranger" because of a link between a direct ancestor and a boat named the Ranger. The history that I have, from DAR papers, says that Captain James Montgomery of Philadelphia captained an armed boat, called the Ranger, in April 1776. From what I have ascertained, after visiting your fine web site, is that the Ranger of JP Jones' fame was fitted out in 1777 which seems to say that this was not the same Ranger that Captain James Montgomery commanded in April 1776. Do you have any idea of whether there was a Ranger prior to JP Jones? Bridget of Phoenix, AZ harv@uswest.net EDITOR'S REPLY: We're not scholars, but seems likely you have another ship there. The only book on "our" Ranger is by Joe Sawtelle (in our book section of online Seacoast Store). Yours too was likely named for Robert Rogers of Roger's Rangers, the famous "Indian fighter" who married a woman from Portsmouth. http://www.seacoastnh.com/jpj/ranger.html http://www.seacoastnh.com/jpj/heroic.html August 26 MEMORIAL BRIDGE MEMORIES I just arrived back in California last night after a visit to my hometown there and just now read your column on the Memorial Bridge, one of my favorite spots. As a kid it always scared me to cross it, and I never would alone -- the rattles, shakes and hums of it all, no doubt. I grew up hearing from my mother: "I should have thrown you off the Memorial Bridge when you were born!" -- with just cause, I might add. I really enjoyed the column and wish I could have seen you spinning "like a toothpick in a toilet"! I now make a trip across the bridge a mandatory part of each visit to the Port City. Dennis McCann of San Jose, CA denofearth11@hotmail.com http://www.seacoastnh.com/arts/please081698.html August 26 HAMPTON PRE- MORANG Just wanted to say once again how much i enjoy your site. Having been one of the "Hampton Union" newspapers photographers from the past, BRM (before Ralph Morang), I really enjoy the photos and bios in the gallery. Would like to see more. It's so refreshing to think back about the beauty of our seacoast and all the wonderful fun and adventures it has brought to so many, keep up the good work. Can't wait to get back and show my family around. richard.a.tilton@monsanto.com August 25 CALIFORNIA FAN MAIL Just wanted to say that I live in Santa Barbara, Ca...about as far away from you as I could be! But I do enjoy your newsletter and your site very much. shirley jensen August 25 HOPES WE WILL CONTINUE I visited Portsmouth from August 12 through 19, staying at the Ashford in Hampton Beach. Your site was a wonderful resource prior to my visit. As a result, I enjoyed wonderful meals at Muddy Rivers Smokehouse, Saunders at Rye, and Warrens in Kittery. Portsmouth is beautiful, lots of interesting things to do and see. What I could have done without was the overpriced and less than satisfactory Gulley Hatch and the Ashworth. You're providing a great service for the public and I hope you're able to continue it. Steve F sfreedmn@erols.com August 25 TROLLEY TALK, TAKE 2 I love your website. There is so much info. I cant wait to get down and visit there. I believe I got to ride one of your trolleys during the balloon fest In Maine at Auburn-Lewiston. The driver's name was Dena. She was a wonderful driver and so friendly. Have never ridden on a trolley before; it was awesome. Please let me know if that is one of your drivers and trolleys. Bethanie EDITOR'S REPLY: Four separate companies run the trolleys in this region. Your region has its own. If you think a fake trolley is cool, try a REAL one on real tracks at the Trolley Museum in Kennebunkport, Maine nearby. Their weekend sunset ride is only $2.50! Check their web page right now. Ding! Ding! http://www.gwi.net/trolley/ August 24 SUMMER'S END QUESTION CAVALCADE Going to the coast next week staying in Exeter. Is there a place to rent skijets along the coast somewhere, pontoon boats or power boats. And do they allow small dogs on the trolleys and the beaches? Ward wardc72113@aol.com EDITOR'S REPLY: Those noisesome vehicles can be rented at Hampton Beach Jet Ski Rental, 1 Ocean Blvd, (603) 929-9911 and New England Parasail and Jet Ski Rental, 23 Harbor Rd, Hampton (603) 929-4174.We see dogs at Rye and Hampton, but each beach has its own rules. Tiny dogs may be OK on trolleys if they fit in your lap. August 24 HOT TO TROLLEY I was just curious if they still use trolleys at Hampton Beach?? jelliebean7@hotmail.com EDITOR'S REPLY: They call them trolleys, although they are more free-ranging look-alikes. No more unsightly electric cables, just motorized red versions that travel all the way to the Kittery Mall and back in season. How could you miss our giant online Trolley section, Jellybean? http://www.seacoastnh.com/trolleys/ http://www.seacoastnh.com/hamptonbeach/ August 24 NJ WANTS TEAM T-SHIRT I've just moved to New Hampshire from New Jersey. A friend of mine inNew Jersey is interested in something (a shirt, cap, mug) with your logon it (Apparently, he's heard of the team and likes the name). Send any information on where I can buy such merchandise. johanna jlarkin@earthlink.net EDITOR'S REPLY: SeacoastNH.com T-shirts are in our Seacoast Store as always. But I get the feeling you may be talking about UNH, since our "team" isn't a household word. Wanted to send you right to the T-shirts link at the UNH Campus Bookstore in the MUB, but got lost in the UNH web site. Since we already spent four years adrift at that campus, we can't afford it again. So here, at least, is the UNH campus homepage. Happy shopping. http://www.seacoastnh.com/cgi-local/shop.pl/page=index.html http://www.unh.edu/ August 23 WE'VE BEEN FOUND OUT!!! We are so excited that we found you! Your site has been so much fun and extremely informative! I hope that we are able to visit some of the many places that you describe. Keep up the good work!!! RickSha28@aol.com August 23 PROOF THAT JOHN PAUL WAS A MASON You may wish to add this link. I shall certainly be adding a link to your page. Shows scans of extracts from the Minute Book of St Bernard Kilwinning Lodge, No 122. Signed by Captain Paul Jones November 27, 1770. Fraternally, WebMaster to The Grand Lodge of Scotland
Lodge St Cuthbert Kilwinning, No 41
August 21 LOVED THEIR SEACOAST VISIT ONLINE AND OFF! Having just returned from a 4 day visit to your area, I just wanted to thank you for the great info i received via your site. My husband and i were able to find our way around easily. We enjoyed your area very much. We especially were impressed with the motel we chose via your site. The Pebble Cove Motel was a perfect spot, centrally located in Rye, NH on Ocean Blvd -- beautiful pool, rooms with a small kitchen, and exceptionally clean -- a great bargain!!!! linda lovely@gisco.net August 21 WEIGHT OF WATER CLUB Our book club is doing an in depth review of this book. Could you direct me to a source where I can conduct some research - i.e. Book reviews,reference books, etc. John M jmoffatt@archerent.com EDITOR'S REPLY: You couldn't get much more info than on our Smuttynose Murder theme site which has a dozen articles on the REAL murder. For links to Anita's book (other than a web Search) you might start with the publisher at Little Brown. Their page is linked below and includes references and questions for discussion -- and a link back to us! If you get a nice list of web references, we'd be glad to add a links page to our site. http://www.seacoastnh.com/smuttynose/index.html http://www.pathfinder.com/twep/back_bay/authors/anita_shreve/weight_of_water/ August 19 OKAY, EVERYBODY -- SEND HER A CARD! Hi NH - I was at the beach today with my best friend whom I used to go to Hampton every year with growing up 20 years ago and enjoyed reminiscing. We even met our first boyfriend there and my mom met her first husband there too. I now have a 7 month old child and started a postcard collection of all the places we go and write on it the description of the day and put it in a special box so he will have many memories later in life. However it stormed today and I never got to get the postcard and was hoping you would be kind enough to send me one so I can add to the collection. I'll be happy to reimburse you. It would mean a lot and will probably become historic. Thank you in advance for this big favor. Please send a blank card to the following address as I would forever greatly appreciate it and continue to vacation at Hampton as it really is my favorite seaside playground. Barbara Dyer 17 Breakneck Hill -Southboro, MA 01772 August 18 MISSILE FROM THE ROCK PASTURE Greetings to the region's latest medium, from its earliest: the New Hampshire Gazette; the Nation's Oldest Newspaper ™. We're on the web these days, too, of course. We try not to let our age hold us back. The many readers of your admirable website are invited to visit us. Anyone of them interested in preventing the further deterioration of the parking situation in Portsmouth might want to check out our piece on the Rock Pasture. Attendance at a public hearing Thursday night might make a difference. Yours truly, Steven Fowle, Editor, the NH Gazette editors@nhgazette.com http://www.nhgazette.com August 18 MISSING A MEAL? I was looking at your web page and I noticed a lot of restaurants from the Portsmouth area are missing. How did you decide which restaurants to put on? Is there a fee to be on your web page? PattyPP5@aol.com EDITOR'S REPLY: Just over two years ago we made a bold decision that SeacoastNH.com would not charge a monthly link fee like other sites to be listed in our Dining Directory. Then we wrote and called nearly 200 Seacoast restaurants, at our expense, to get all the facts we could and hook up free links. We still stand behind this policy, although we do charge a one-time $50 registration fee when a new restaurant is added. That includes the free link. Have we gotten a single thank you letter from any restaurant, even though some are paying hundreds of dollars for links elsewhere? Nope. Our fee is $200 less than the annual cost to join a chamber and our Dining pages are among the most highly accessed pages on the site. Sure, we're taking the high ground on this one but we're bound to dine well in heaven when we go. http://www.seacoastnh.com/touring/dining.html August 17 SUSSE MISS OR SUSSE HIT? I am visiting Portsmouth in September and am staying at the Susse Chalet Inn. Will I be able to purchase a Harbour Trail Guide there or are they available somewhere at the beginning of the Walking trail? W.F. Scott wfscott@wmis.net EDITOR'S REPLY: Marge Hubbard, executive director of the Harbour Trail is going to check for you. The Chalet had copies, but may be out of stock. If so, you can pick them up at the Chamber of Commerce, at the chamber booth in Market Square or simply order yours by mail from our web site. Just be sure to note that you want it ASAP before your departure date. And don't forget to pick up the newly released Harbour Trail board game and a 375th Harbour Trail t-shirt for the trip home! How's that for subtle sales? http://www.seacoastnh.com/harbourtrail/index.html August 14 RELIC HUNTING ALLOWED? (1) Is relic hunting allowed on any of the Isles? (2) Please contact w/ any information on any groups that may hunt on the Isles if it is permissible. HaStamper@aol.com EDITOR'S REPLY: We're going to go out on a limb here and say "no" based on general knowledge. Appledore Island is a Cornell/UNH marine lab, Star is privately owned by the Unitarian Church, Smuttynose and Cedar are Lunging are privately owned, and the rest of the Isles are mostly birds and rocks. Only Star welcomes the public and only if they arrive in season on the ferry stop-over daytrip. A recent Foster's front page article exhumed the legend of Blackbeard's treasure and was picked up by the national press, but it's old news around here. We know of no relic hunters around here, but many preservation societies including ISHRA that promotes Isles history. http://www.fosters.com/news98b/july/05/do0705a.htm http://www.seacoastnh.com/shoals/map.html August 13 NATURAL BORN KILLER My grandparents said that we were directly related to John Paul Jones but that he was a killer and had to change his name. I need to find out if I am related to him. Thank you for your help. Ron John Paul childes@webtv.net EDITOR'S REPLY: Congratulations, you are the first person who has asked that question and is NOT named Jones. You'll have to trace your own family tree back to Scotland where John Paul was born. Since he had no children and his sisters' children, we assume, received their father's surnames, seems pretty unlikely you are related to either the "killer" US naval hero or the Pope named John Paul. Only through a lot of genealogical research will the answer be known. http://www.seacoastnh.com/jpj/index.html August 13 ENDEAVOUR FIELD TRIP PLANNED I work at York Middle School. Recently, my principal received a letter telling about the Endeavor coming to Portsmouth and tours that can be set up Sept. 11-21. I am interested in setting up a field trip for our entire 5th grade (180 students). Suzi M at York Middle School cucklbutn@cybertours.com EDITOR'S REPLY: Your message is now in the hands of the Maritime Heritage Committee of the Portsmouth Chamber which is coordinating the arrival of the 18th century research vessel that once toured the world with Capt. Cook. You reminded us that we must get going on our own 375th Endeavour pages since the gala visit of the ship is on its way. SeacoastNH.com scooped the local media and first broke the story over a year ago. http://www.seacoastnh.com/tjijul97.html#cook August 12 DESPERATELY SEEKING ANNESE Looking for frank annese... please transmitt ! would hear from him ! Diane from Switzerland diane.correa-hall@repop.ch EDITOR'S REPLY: Sorry, we could find no trace of the Boston actor we interviewed last year, nor of his New Neighborhood Theater in the North End of Boston as featured in the article below. Maybe one of our Boston readers can help you? Come on Mike Barnicle, we bet you secretly read our site. http://www.seacoastnh.com/arts/please061297.html August 11 BERNIE'S PARENTS CHECK IN Went to Portsmouth last weekend and caught striped Bass in the River. Usually we stay at the Sise Inn, but this weekend we stayed with our kids. Portsmouth is a great city, friendly and safe. We have visited the John Paul Jones Museum, Strawbery Banke (at least 50 times!) and am amazed at the wealth of historic materials on display throughout the city. Our son, Bernie, is a Captain of Firefighters with the Portsmouth Fire Department and we are mighty proud of him. Love that City!! Bernie &Polly M August 11 WEARE TO GO I have recently come into some early New Hampshire documents including the genealogy of the Weare family including such items as the wallet of one Nathan Weare dated 1776. Also a letter in code, to Lieut. Nathan Weare in Camp at Saratoga from a M. Weare in Philadelphia dated July 26, 1782. There is also an early copy of the Declaration of Independence . Also, another letter from - or to- Thomas W. Weare. My question is simply where should I go to research and find info. and perhaps buyers for these papers, etc.? John E j_eastman@conknet EDITOR'S REPLY: Very cool, but we don't yet tamper with the buying and selling of local history. You may want to contact the NH Historical Society, maybe not for buying, but for donationing. Then, we suggest, you track down the genealogy sites for the Weare family. Let us know how you fare. http://www.nhhistory.org/ August 10 BAITS MOTEL hello. I think you should provide more motel information also on your web page. james@map.com EDITOR'S REPLY: So did we, but after calling every motel in the Seacoast to explain the idea and solicit funds, we changed our minds and went with one solid directory (see below). We are an independent volunteer site and this is a giant effort that should be coordinated through local chambers of commerce, we think. See August 3 letter below for more of same discussion. http://www.seacoastnh.com/touring/motels.html August 08 SQUEEZING MORE OUT OF THE CHARMING MR. WHIPPLE Why not do a story and provide sources for further research on one of your most illustrious sons of the American Revolution, General William Whipple? BGBoyd@aol.com EDITOR'S REPLY: Been there, done that, but thee is much more to say beyond our short article (click below) about the man buried in the North Cemetery nearby. The hotlinks idea is a good one. You'd think a NH guy who signed the Declaration of Independence would get a little more respect around here. http://www.seacoastnh.com/framers/whipple.html http://www.seacoastnh.com/blackhistory/prince.html August 06 ARIZONA? THAT ONE OF THEM NEW STATES? Love your site. I grew up in Dorchester. Ma and have lived in Arizona for 35 years. I love Az but miss New England. Thanks for all the history (some of which I didn't know until now). Also spent many summers at Hampton Beach. Is the Casino still going strong? Nan of Arizona Nan.36@aol.com EDITOR'S REPLY. Don't know how old "Ma" is but the Casino is turning 100 this year! Here's their new web site: http://www.casinoballroom.com/ August 06 COMING THROUGH TO RYE Looking for a nice place in Rye for August 13,1998 for two adults. Appreciate any information you can give. Leb63@aol.com EDITOR'S REPLY: Just turns out we've been building our Rye database, so after you check out our Lodging section below, we've added a couple of bonus links (Rosewood Inn and Rock Ledge B&B) to sites not yet in our directory. http://www.seacoastnh.com/touring/lodging.html http://www.virtualcities.com/~virtual/ons/nh/p/nhp4501.htm http://www.rosewoodatrye.com/rose020.htm August 05 STAY ON A STAR? I am interested in learning more about Star Island (Isles of Shoals).Are accommodations available there? Who do I contact? Bob S CQPINEY@worldnet.att.net EDITOR'S REPLY: We asked for it. This in our "Top 3 Most Asked" questions list about the Seacoast along with: "Am I related to John Paul Jones?" and "Where can I board my dog at Hampton Beach?" Bear with us -- we're working on a high-tech instant-reply system for FAQs. In the interim, here is the Star Island Corp info you need which was hidden in our Star Island Hotlinks page. When in doubt, try the SEARCH compass on homepage. http://www.starisland.org/ http://www.seacoastnh.com/shoals/links.html August 05 SWAP NH FOR FLORIDA CONDO? Do you know of anyone that would want to trade a Top Floor SW, 3 bedroom condo on the Gulf in Marco Island Florida for a place where you are? Your little place sounds wonderful. Agrandi@aol.com August 04 GLADYS LOVES OUR NEWSLETTER Just had to tell you how much I enjoyed the story of the shop keeper who refused to sell the power ball tickets. Called my husband in to read that one, too, and I wish you could have heard him laugh. My husband really knows how to chuckle! I truly enjoy news from New Hampshire. Your way of life is different from that here in Houston. These l00 degree days are surely stacking up. I would love to be somewhere on a boat! And at 3 A.M. this morning, our air conditioner went out. We are currently waiting for a repairman and I am sure that he is swamped. Gladys P in Texas GladysMP@wt.net EDITOR'S REPLY: Hope our seacoast pictures help keep you two cool. Only our 4,200 loyal newsletter subscribers got to read that bonus Powerball story. Those who missed it can sign up for a newsletter now and chuckle along with Gladys. http://www.seacoastnh.com/talk.html#news August 03 GOODY, GOODY You may wish to include a link to our Goody Cole page in your "Wreck of the Rivermouth" The "Wreck" was well done as usual. Bobb Menk, Hampton Library bmenk@hampton.lib.nh.us http://www.hampton.lib.nh.us:80/hampton/biog/goody.htm http://www.seacoastnh.com/poems/rivermouth.html August 03 BLUEFISH REPORT I would like to know if the blue fish are running, and where the best place is to go to catch them in the state of NH. Thanks Curt viola@togther.net EDITOR'S REPLY: Biologist Bruce Smith of the Region 3 Fisheries in Durham tells us this is the bluefish season in August, though he has not heard raves yet on the catch this season. He suggests contacting the party boars out of Hampton and Rye that fish for "blues" around the Isles of Shoals. (We've added a couple of links below.) Bruce says you can spot people fishing bluefish, since they often use a balloon to lift the line away from the boat. He says some people like to eat bluefish, but others don't find it appealing, though it is a good scrappy game fish. http://www.deepseafishing-nh.com/ http://www.eastmansdocks.com/ August 03 LODGING RATES NOT ONLINE I was wondering if you could email me back how much it would cost for a night at the Ashworth, Kentville, and Sands. If you could also give me additional information on prices on hotels and motels it would be greatly appreciated thank you Mike Paqu44@aol.com EDITOR'S REPLY: We checked again with the chamber and it appears there is no centralized way to get room rates for Hampton Beach hotels or motels. You have to contact each one individually. Since only about 25% of them are open year round, there are precious few online. Since we give them all a FREE listing, we have the best Hampton hotlink directory on the Internet. Looks like you have to resort to the dreaded telephone! http://www.seacoastnh.com/touring/lodging.html August 01 CHILD-SAFE NH HISTORY I am a fourth grade teacher in Bedford, NH. I have been researching web sites for NH history information. I love your site. I'm creating an interactive web site where fourth graders students can go in read information from my students' research and do a scavenger hunt about NH. I'd love to use your site as a link, as a safe place for students to go to search for information. JoAnne JoTDel@aol.com August 01 SEAFOOD SHOOT-OUT Does Portsmouth have on-the-wharf lobster restaurants like Maine does, where the lobster boats come in and the atmosphere is casual? linda lovely@gisco.net EDITOR'S REPLY: Ayup. You can see the proof by checking links here to BG's, Pier 2, Saunders. You might also check the deck at Gino's, Warren's, Wannamaker, and others. Remember, we have an 18 mile coastline to Maine's 3,500 miles of coastal roads. We may be the restaurant capital of the Northeast, but be fair! http://www.seacoastnh.com/touring/seafood.html August 01 HALF-MAN, HALF LOBSTER REVEALED!! Last summer I went to a seafood festival at Hampton Beach, NH and had a great time. Will it be happening again this summer? Esther sguzel@classic.msn.com EDITOR'S REPLY: The 9th Annual Hampton Beach Seafood Festival with 50 participating restaurants runs September 12 and 13. Check out our calendar and a picture a half-man half-lobster at Hampton by Ralph Morang! http://www.seacoastnh.com/hamptonbeach/calendar.html http://www.seacoastnh.com/arts/photosmorang2/ph12.html |
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